Q&A: Southern Colorado doctor details immigration enforcement's impact on community health
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PUEBLO, Colo. — Doctor Laura Stein has worked with documented and undocumented migrant farmworkers since she was a teenager in the 1980s, when she first met a group of migrant farmworkers picking cherries in Wisconsin. 
Stein’s experience in Wisconsin led her to serve migrant farmworkers when she graduated from her residency 1993 and started practicing family medicine. 
She eventually moved to southern Colorado and has worked as a family doctor in Pueblo for 30 years, practicing a wide scope of medicine in rural communities. 
In southern Colorado, documented and undocumented migrant farmworkers pick and sort the peppers and pumpkins that end up in Colorado grocery stores. These farmworkers carry out arduous, manual labor that can result in injuries, Stein said.
But since President Donald Trump took office, Stein has seen a decrease in patients — both documented and undocumented. This has ramifications for the health of everyone, Stein said. 
Stein said even documented workers are not usually aware of their rights to health care, and often fear seeking medical treatment if Spanish is their only language because of potential ICE enforcement. Stein said that concern is heightened following the Supreme Court’s decision to permit racial profiling during immigration stops. 
The latest data from TRAC, a nonprofit data center, shows ICE has detained about 60,000 people, up from 37,782 people who were detained before President Donald Trump took office in January. The increase in immigration enforcement and ICE raids has also led to a decrease in undocumented workers visiting Stein's free health clinics for fear of arrest, detention, and deportation, she said.
Stein’s conversation with Rocky Mountain PBS came at a time when many Republican politicians are incorrectly blaming the extended government shutdown on health care for undocumented people.
This conversation has been edited for length and clarity.
Rocky Mountain PBS: What got you into this work and kept you in the realm of providing migrant farmworkers health care?
Laura Stein: I'm like five one and a half. At that time [1980], I just didn't have the height and the strength to do the large animal veterinary stuff, so I decided to go to medical school instead. 
And the migrant workers I worked with in Wisconsin worked for a guy who owned, like, a riding stable for tourists. And then as part of our jobs, we helped clean out the trailers that the migrant workers lived in, and we would be out in the cherry fields sometimes helping out with that stuff. So I got to know that population pretty well, and I know they were always like, super nice people and super hard working.
And so when I decided to go into medicine, I thought, well, this is the population I want to work with, like people who are moving from place to place, and they need health care.
RMPBS: What were the events that led to your switch from treating undocumented patients at the Pueblo Community Health Center to the church ?
LS: The first year [1998] we did the after-hours clinic, and we did have people show up, but they were just nervous because it was kind of like a known clinic. And some of them expressed that they were concerned that immigration would be waiting outside the door when they walked out. And the church is a sanctuary place.
So the next year, we switched it to where the church had their open house on Thursday evenings. So if they were worried about [ICE raids] … it made no sense to have a clinic where people weren't going to show up because they were afraid, right? So you kind of go where the people are.
RMPBS: How did you feel about the transition from a proper health center to a makeshift clinic in the church?
But no, other than that. Even at my first job in Las Cruces, , we would go out into the fields and we would check people's blood pressures and we would do TB testing and so I was kind of used to going out and doing field work, like out in the field, treating people out where they were at so that that wasn't really new for me.
You just try to do more with less.
RMPBS: How has your care for undocumented migrant workers has changed since Trump took office in January?
LS: Well, let me start with Trump's first administration. So, I mean, we used to routinely see, I would say 10, sometimes 14 patients in an afternoon, on those Thursdays. And after Trump got into office [in 2016] and ICE was cruising the streets, I mean, we would hardly see anybody.
And then even after Trump left office [in 2020], people had gotten out of the habit of coming, and they're so nervous. So even when Biden was in office, we never got our numbers really back up to that…. So I think just people are nervous in general.
With Trump's second term, I think what's new is, you know, we have these folks from Cuba and Venezuela, some from Peru, and they are on asylum visas where they actually get Medicaid, temporary Medicaid. And are able to work and things like that. And now recently they're [the Trump administration] revoking a lot of those.
And so people [who were previously granted asylum visas] are losing their jobs, they're losing their health care. They don't know where to go. They don't want to go back home. I mean, they left [their home countries] for a reason. 
So we're seeing examples of that happening where they had coverage and now they don't. They had a job and now they don't, which creates a lot of stress, which adds to whatever health problems they already have. 
So that's kind of the difference between the first term. The first term was just like ICE sweeps. The second term is ICE sweeps plus these visas being revoked.
RMPBS: And what's your worry with less people coming into the clinic?
LS: I mean my worry is that people are not getting any care.
That things are going to —  whatever issue they have — is going to progress to the point where they're going to end up in the emergency room. And then like, you could have avoided that. Or they don't know what kind of resources are available to them. 
We just had a guy. This [documented, migrant farmworker] guy came in, and he had been working for somebody up in Denver, like north of Denver, and on a horse. I don't know if he was on a ranch, but he came off the horse, and the horse kind of jumped over him. And to protect his face, he put his arm over his head. And the horse's hoof, the back of it probably, like, hit his wrist. 
And that was a month ago. Okay. The guy is actually a legal resident, but was afraid to go get health care or didn't realize he could get health care. So now the fracture has healed incorrectly and he can't move his wrist.
And so we got him an X-ray. And sure enough,  it's a fracture that didn't heal well and is actually affecting his wrist bones, which are really, that's kind of a dicey fracture to begin with. 
So now we're bringing him into our clinic here in town, Southern Colorado Family Medicine, because now he has Medicaid and we're going to get him over to the orthopedics, and he's probably going to need a surgery to fix what healed wrong, possibly get some mobility back in that wrist.
It's never going to be the same.
RMPBS: What avenues of care are available to undocumented workers? 
LS: I do want to say this in Colorado and this goes state by state. And probably some people would not be happy to know this, but if someone shows up in the emergency room, they can get what's called emergency Medicaid. So what that covers is anything that's considered an emergency.
Now, that's a Colorado thing. That's not a federal thing. Colorado has decided that in order to get our rural hospitals, you know, keep them solvent, that they will provide emergency Medicaid for emergency situations. And so that applies to someone coming into an ER with a heart attack that applies to someone showing up to labor delivery to deliver a baby.
But it only covers like that immediate hospitalization and care does not extend to like once they leave the hospital. It's not going to cover the follow up visit at a clinic. It's not going to cover the follow up visit with the cardiologist. If they had a heart attack, it's not going to cover medications. It's not going to cover.
You're done. Like once you leave the hospital in your emergency care because it ended, you have no other coverage. There is no long term Medicaid for someone who is undocumented, who cannot have legal residents.
RMPBS: How do you think there could be an overall healthier southern Colorado?
LS: I would love to see universal health care. I was a member of a student medical student group in 1987 advocating for universal health care. I've been advocating for that for 40 years.
I mean, it may not solve the undocumented problem but that'd solve a lot of other problems. 
RMPBS: You've been doing this for a long time — are you ever fearful of repercussions from the federal government for the services you provide to undocumented people?
No. No. Personally, no, I don't think I'm doing anything illegal.
I don't think they can arrest me for giving free care and a walk in clinic. And we're not charging money. We're not getting paid to do what we do. So we don't really have to, you know, prove any sort of, like, meet any sort of standards.
So, I mean, I don't think so. Maybe I'm wrong. It's never even occurred to me, but now, you put the idea in my head [laughs].
RMPBS: Are there any new or different feelings that this presidential administration brings to the kind of work you do that is different from how you felt when you were doing it in the 90s and early 2000s?
LS: I just think the community in general is more fearful. I mean, I just see more fear than there. Obviously there was always fear of immigration, finding them and deporting them. But I don't know, I feel like the fear is worse now. Usually when families have been here for like five, ten years, they tend not to worry so much about being picked up by immigration.
And that's not the case anymore. It just seems like everybody's fair game.
RMPBS: What do you wish people knew about in terms of the government shutdown and the misinformation about Medicaid being given to undocumented people?
LS: I think what the general public should understand is, number one, these people are not allowed to get like SNAP benefits, WIC [the government food assistance program for women, infants and children], Medicaid, generally speaking, if they're undocumented and not legal residents, they are not eligible for those benefits. 
So they're not taking advantage of that. They're not allowed. Like in order to get those benefits, you have to present some sort of identification and social security of some sort or something stating you're a legal resident or you're, you know, that you're legal in some way. 
And that's where these asylum visas came in. And now if those [asylum visas] get pulled, then those people just revert back to being undocumented and they're not eligible for any of those federal benefits.
RMPBS: Are there any examples in your work that give you hope, for the near future or the long term future in your specific area of healthcare for undocumented people?
LS: The positivity I see is that we just did interviews with medical students today that are applying for our residency program, and a lot of them actually heard about our immigrant clinic and were very interested. And I do think that people at least coming into primary care want to help the underserved.
There's definitely a desire to help people who need help. 
And so I guess I'm optimistic that I also see people coming into our residency, you know, wanting to help people, leaving our residency, going into clinic situations like community health centers and rural practices. So I still see them even leaving after three years of training and still wanting to be in a situation where they can help the underserved.
Type of story: Q&A
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